vista very disappointing

Well... after some technical issues originally due to a lack of suitable hardware (which just to install an OS is a bit of a wind up).. I moved Vista onto a more powerful machine that I would think would be suitable and give a good indication of vista's performance and use...
It turns out that Vista is one massive disappointment. Ease of use... I am not so sure that is the case, i find the endless windows just to adjust options and settings very annoying and the whole look and feel completely rubbish. Compared to the likes of windows XP and general OS navigation; XP is simply much much better.
There is some good functionality within Vista that makes it that much better than XP, but in all fairness its been a complete let down. The start menu itself has to be a wind up - its rediculous! There is no ease of use with it, its overly cluttered and extremely annoying to use.
It looks more like a linux OS than a windows OS, which to be honest isn't a wise move as it should of stayed as a windows OS. Plus its the strain it puts on resources is considerably worse that expected - for an OS it uses way to much CPU, RAM and indeed graphics.
I am not a fan at all - unless there is a plan to have a bit of a clean up and add a bit more customisation within its operations then I won't be changing. The ability to have an improved XP style would be a lot better... but I don't know how many of you agree with that.

I know how you feel. Luckily you can adjust how your UI looks, like it has been always been. As well i know there are lot of people which think this is way better in many areas than XP. To compare, when XPs new start menu was introduced, it gave whole lot more disagreement.
-- Try, learn, experience.
"PLynch" wrote:

Well... after some technical issues originally due to a lack of suitable hardware (which just to install an OS is a bit of a wind up).. I moved Vista onto a more powerful machine that I would think would be suitable and give a good indication of vista's performance and use...
It turns out that Vista is one massive disappointment. Ease of use... I am not so sure that is the case, i find the endless windows just to adjust options and settings very annoying and the whole look and feel completely rubbish. Compared to the likes of windows XP and general OS navigation; XP is simply much much better.
There is some good functionality within Vista that makes it that much better than XP, but in all fairness its been a complete let down. The start menu itself has to be a wind up - its rediculous! There is no ease of use with it, its overly cluttered and extremely annoying to use.
It looks more like a linux OS than a windows OS, which to be honest isn't a wise move as it should of stayed as a windows OS. Plus its the strain it puts on resources is considerably worse that expected - for an OS it uses way to much CPU, RAM and indeed graphics.
I am not a fan at all - unless there is a plan to have a bit of a clean up and add a bit more customisation within its operations then I won't be changing. The ability to have an improved XP style would be a lot better... but I don't know how many of you agree with that.

thats exactly what everyone said on the XP beta :) it takes getting use to.. even when i started to us XP there were so many more menus to dig through to get some place.. part of the reason for this is because there are so many more options.. as much as some of us tech people would love it all in one main console it just doesnt make sense for the average user..
as far as the start menu i kind of thought that as well but the more i use it the more i like it.. i also love that built in search/run command line.. thats awesome... and the amount of hardware monitoring.. AMAZING.. i was begging for that for years..
and speed... well read the million other posts.... it will speed up as it gets closer to RC and then to RTM.. they need to debug it and there is a ton of extra code to do that.. slows things down...
i would say over all for a beta 2 this is much more buggy than XP or 2000 was at beta 2 but i also see a lot more major changes..
the thing im mostly angery at is the high level of security that seems either very difficult to turn off or impossible..
Justin
"PLynch" wrote in message

Well... after some technical issues originally due to a lack of suitable hardware (which just to install an OS is a bit of a wind up).. I moved Vista onto a more powerful machine that I would think would be suitable and give a good indication of vista's performance and use...
It turns out that Vista is one massive disappointment. Ease of use... I am not so sure that is the case, i find the endless windows just to adjust options and settings very annoying and the whole look and feel completely rubbish. Compared to the likes of windows XP and general OS navigation; XP is simply much much better.
There is some good functionality within Vista that makes it that much better than XP, but in all fairness its been a complete let down. The start menu itself has to be a wind up - its rediculous! There is no ease of use with it, its overly cluttered and extremely annoying to use.
It looks more like a linux OS than a windows OS, which to be honest isn't a wise move as it should of stayed as a windows OS. Plus its the strain it puts on resources is considerably worse that expected - for an OS it uses way to much CPU, RAM and indeed graphics.
I am not a fan at all - unless there is a plan to have a bit of a clean up and add a bit more customisation within its operations then I won't be changing. The ability to have an improved XP style would be a lot better... but I don't know how many of you agree with that.

Yes... i like the new windows... i think people always is going to say the new is worst... not because is new but is because is different, like windows 98 for XP... just get used to it and you going to like it! People are lazy and they don´t like changes, some changes in Vista are for good! I´m an open minded user and i always used a lot of dfferent OS so i´m not afraid of anything new! that is my point of view!
"rahi" wrote:

I know how you feel. Luckily you can adjust how your UI looks, like it has been always been. As well i know there are lot of people which think this is way better in many areas than XP. To compare, when XPs new start menu was introduced, it gave whole lot more disagreement.
-- Try, learn, experience.
"PLynch" wrote:
Well... after some technical issues originally due to a lack of suitable hardware (which just to install an OS is a bit of a wind up).. I moved Vista onto a more powerful machine that I would think would be suitable and give a good indication of vista's performance and use...
It turns out that Vista is one massive disappointment. Ease of use... I am not so sure that is the case, i find the endless windows just to adjust options and settings very annoying and the whole look and feel completely rubbish. Compared to the likes of windows XP and general OS navigation; XP is simply much much better.
There is some good functionality within Vista that makes it that much better than XP, but in all fairness its been a complete let down. The start menu itself has to be a wind up - its rediculous! There is no ease of use with it, its overly cluttered and extremely annoying to use.
It looks more like a linux OS than a windows OS, which to be honest isn't a wise move as it should of stayed as a windows OS. Plus its the strain it puts on resources is considerably worse that expected - for an OS it uses way to much CPU, RAM and indeed graphics.
I am not a fan at all - unless there is a plan to have a bit of a clean up and add a bit more customisation within its operations then I won't be changing. The ability to have an improved XP style would be a lot better... but I don't know how many of you agree with that.

I assume you used the feedback button to tell MS all this. Since this is not a managed newsgroup it not likely that your feedback will get to MS from here.
"PLynch" wrote in message

Well... after some technical issues originally due to a lack of suitable hardware (which just to install an OS is a bit of a wind up).. I moved Vista onto a more powerful machine that I would think would be suitable and give a good indication of vista's performance and use...
It turns out that Vista is one massive disappointment. Ease of use... I am not so sure that is the case, i find the endless windows just to adjust options and settings very annoying and the whole look and feel completely rubbish. Compared to the likes of windows XP and general OS navigation; XP is simply much much better.
There is some good functionality within Vista that makes it that much better than XP, but in all fairness its been a complete let down. The start menu itself has to be a wind up - its rediculous! There is no ease of use with it, its overly cluttered and extremely annoying to use.
It looks more like a linux OS than a windows OS, which to be honest isn't a wise move as it should of stayed as a windows OS. Plus its the strain it puts on resources is considerably worse that expected - for an OS it uses way to much CPU, RAM and indeed graphics.
I am not a fan at all - unless there is a plan to have a bit of a clean up and add a bit more customisation within its operations then I won't be changing. The ability to have an improved XP style would be a lot better... but I don't know how many of you agree with that.

I can't believe that some people dont like the start menu!! click start type device manager..bang it's there! For most things you dont even have to look for it..just click start and type it in..now if they could just make it read my mind ;) hmm ok maybe that's not such a good idea...

"PLynch" wrote in message

Well... after some technical issues originally due to a lack of suitable hardware (which just to install an OS is a bit of a wind up).. I moved Vista onto a more powerful machine that I would think would be suitable and give a good indication of vista's performance and use...
It turns out that Vista is one massive disappointment. Ease of use... I am not so sure that is the case, i find the endless windows just to adjust options and settings very annoying and the whole look and feel completely rubbish. Compared to the likes of windows XP and general OS navigation; XP is simply much much better.
There is some good functionality within Vista that makes it that much better than XP, but in all fairness its been a complete let down. The start menu itself has to be a wind up - its rediculous! There is no ease of use with it, its overly cluttered and extremely annoying to use.
It looks more like a linux OS than a windows OS, which to be honest isn't a wise move as it should of stayed as a windows OS. Plus its the strain it puts on resources is considerably worse that expected - for an OS it uses way to much CPU, RAM and indeed graphics.
I am not a fan at all - unless there is a plan to have a bit of a clean up and add a bit more customisation within its operations then I won't be changing. The ability to have an improved XP style would be a lot better... but I don't know how many of you agree with that.

It works for some things like that but if you use it longer it'll fall apart.
Typing display or resolution doesn't bring up anything.
And since all your emails, news messages and .. everything that's indexed, shows up in the start menu search, you'll find that if you happen to get technical news or mail, for example microsoft.public.windows.vista.general, those messages are also found just by pressing start. If I type display in start menu it'll just pop a ton of messages from news.
After couple years worth of messages it won't find anything properly and will slow down too.
A better solution would be to have the start menu search only find things you can run, and leave finding messages and documents to another search box or have some scope to limit the search eg. (START) mail:Very Disappointing or by (START) program: outlook:messagetitle
"Bones" wrote in message

I can't believe that some people dont like the start menu!! click start type device manager..bang it's there! For most things you dont even have to look for it..just click start and type it in..now if they could just make it read my mind ;) hmm ok maybe that's not such a good idea...

"PLynch" wrote in message Well... after some technical issues originally due to a lack of suitable hardware (which just to install an OS is a bit of a wind up).. I moved Vista onto a more powerful machine that I would think would be suitable and give a good indication of vista's performance and use...
It turns out that Vista is one massive disappointment. Ease of use... I am not so sure that is the case, i find the endless windows just to adjust options and settings very annoying and the whole look and feel completely rubbish. Compared to the likes of windows XP and general OS navigation; XP is simply much much better.
There is some good functionality within Vista that makes it that much better than XP, but in all fairness its been a complete let down. The start menu itself has to be a wind up - its rediculous! There is no ease of use with it, its overly cluttered and extremely annoying to use.
It looks more like a linux OS than a windows OS, which to be honest isn't a wise move as it should of stayed as a windows OS. Plus its the strain it puts on resources is considerably worse that expected - for an OS it uses way to much CPU, RAM and indeed graphics.
I am not a fan at all - unless there is a plan to have a bit of a clean up and add a bit more customisation within its operations then I won't be changing. The ability to have an improved XP style would be a lot better... but I don't know how many of you agree with that.